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How I see it
Topic Started: Feb 29 2012, 10:02 AM (4,209 Views)
Kruegs Outlandish
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all of them are under Frieza ... :|
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Mar 2 2012, 02:41 AM
Super buus true power wasn't shown yet when the Janemba movie was out yet.

Super Buu>Any janemba
that maybe true but they knew where the story was going, and its quite obvious majin buu himself was defeated. super buus true power? if anything him being super buu was the final result. The other powers he stole. In effect still making him majin buu, powers absorbed or not.

Not to mention that south and grand kaioshin were still in there too along with good buu. Which is how grey buu became super buu in the first place.

Not the other fusions.

So no, with baby janemba being compared to any buu even fat buu who is implied to be just under kid buu is no exception.

fat buu was fat buu until pure evil buu took over, and ate the other half of himself to become even stronger. so even though grand kais effect was more calming, the south kais strength was used, and he was stated to be almost as strong as the saiyans.

so grand kai plus south kai, plus good buus power= super buu.

take away grand kai and keep south kais strength along with the anger over mister satan getting shot and you have pure evil grey buu.

with fat janemba even equaling kid buu his overall fusion with those dead souls was way more powerful than grey buu just eating his other half imo.

Super janemba smokes super buu with no absorption's like kindling.

super buu with gohan, gotenks,piccolo and the kais absorbed make up buuhan anyways. not just ultimate gohan, who i have being able to beat janemba on his own. Though with difficulty

gohan>ssj3 gotenks= super buuicolo>super buu

super janemba>super buuicolo> fat janemba>=kid buu>=fat buu





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@Cocoman The problem that I still have is Buu getting stronger with no source. I can understand if it was a mistake by Akira, but that's huge mistake then. And that Dabura comment still confuses me, anyone can interpreted differently. To be honest I always found it logical that Super Buu had more power, but I guess like you said, poor translations, etc.

@bizness86 I always believed Dabura was stronger than Cell, Goku says he's around Cell's league then says he was stronger. But the problem I have is Goku agreeing with Vegeta that he can beat Dabura before knowing he can go SSJ2.
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I also assume that Goku assumes that Vegeta has achieved SSJ2. ANd I assume that Vegeta assumes the same about Vegeta; they were both proven geniuses and rivals; why would neither of them have achieved SSJ2 in 7 years?

But I've come across members that also claim that neither of them assumed that the other had SSJ2.
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^^


i think vegetas surprise was more of how powerful gokus ssj2 form was since he(vegeta) was working to get as strong as gohan.
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When Goku killed Yakon, Vegeta said, it looks like that jerk can go SSJ2 as well. He said it in a way that just found out he could go SSJ2, and before he was confident that both of them were enough for Dabura. Unless Akira really got lazy in this saga...
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In all honesty, I believe Pre-Majin MSS Vegeta could beat Dabra, but Vegeta would have to watch himself and it would be a pretty close fight IMO.

I don't think Vegeta would be miles a head of Dabra, but I see him being enough a head to having a slight advantage.

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SSJ3 Vegito > SSJ3 Gogeta > SSJ2 Vegito > SSJ2 Gogeta > SSJ Vegito > SSJ Gogeta > Buuhan > Buutenks > Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks > Super Janemba > SSJ2 Gotenks > Super Buu > Kid Buu = SSJ3 Goku = SSJ Gotenks > Fat Buu > SSJ2 Majin Vegeta > SSJ2 Goku > SSJ2 Vegeta > SSJ2 Kid Gohan > SSJ2 Teen Gohan > M10 Broly > Base Gotenks > Super Perfect Cell > Perfect Cell = M8 LSSJ Broly > Dabura

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Cocoman
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Feb 29 2012, 10:39 AM
This is how I see it though:

Hirudegarn>Super Vegetto>>>Buuhan>Buutenks>SSJ3 Gotenks>SSJ Gogeta>LSSJ3 Broly>SSJ2 Gotenks>Ultimate Gohan>Super Janemba>SSJ3 Broly>SSJ Gotenks>SSJ3 Goku>SSJ3 Vegeta>LSSJ Broly(Movies 8 & 10)>SSJ2 Gohan(Movie 10)>Majin Vegeta=SSJ2 Goku>Super Perfect Cell>SSJ Broly>Perfect Cell>Bojack>MSSJ Gohan>MSSJ Goku>MSSJ Vegeta>MSSJ Trunks>Super Trunks>Initial Perfect Cell>Super Vegeta>>>Semi Perfect Cell~Super Android 13>>>Android 16>Android 17>Android 18>>SSJ Vegeta>SSJ Trunks>>Cooler>Namek SSJ Goku>Frieza
And the dinosaurs?.
Don't forget SSjin Bulma :w00t:

Too low down the chain to list, I only decided to list those Frieza level and above
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